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daze · Mar 03, 2009, 04:24 AM // 04:24

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Originally Posted by Revelations

I agree its awful compared to actually being there and calling targets/applying hexes yourself, but that doesn't change the fact it still works,

I would have stopped the sentence right there.

Super Igor · Mar 03, 2009, 10:13 AM // 10:13

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Originally Posted by byteme!

If my soul intention is to have my heroes work for me while I afk from time to time who cares if I'm calling targets or not? I'm afk for crying out loud. Nor should I care if they don't attack the same target. The fact they are doing anything at all is win-win. This goes for Discord/Sab/Roj/any other build under the sun. If things die and my heroes don't then it's working as intended. I don't know why anyone would even care what builds are better or not for afk'ing. You're afk!!!! Hello?!

Over analyzing something as trivial as this makes me laugh.

This quote was extremely stupid. Why you want to run a three hero team that is bad for afking if you want an afk friendly build?

Anwyn · Mar 03, 2009, 10:32 AM // 10:32

Some people are saying you have to be a caller... Lol, I play Earth Shaker and don't apply any conditions or hexes myself and my Discord works hundreds... OK I apply DW fro time to time, but don't actively call, conditio and hex my targets... Heroes do it on auto pilot...

Super Igor · Mar 03, 2009, 12:34 PM // 12:34

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Originally Posted by Anwyn

Some people are saying you have to be a caller... Lol, I play Earth Shaker and don't apply any conditions or hexes myself and my Discord works hundreds... OK I apply DW fro time to time, but don't actively call, conditio and hex my targets... Heroes do it on auto pilot...

If you think it works hundreds you fail and never played a Discord which is good.

hunter · Mar 03, 2009, 12:40 PM // 12:40

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

If you think it works hundreds you fail and never played a Discord which is good. Besides ES is only good if you have loads of aoe d-slash and we are way better for h/h.

Yeah, discord with Earthshaker is lol.

If you wanna make full use of [discord] as a warrior you will need to use [warrior's endurance] and [asuran scan]. Have a hero cast [withering aura] on you. [Dismember] and [cyclone axe] fit very well. Spammable AoE with conditions on demand ftw.

Conditions are easy to apply, but hexes are another matter. You COULD [suffering] on one hero but you will have to place points in curses, which kinda sucks for [discord]

byteme! · Mar 03, 2009, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

This quote was extremely stupid. Why you want to run a three hero team that is bad for afking if you want an afk friendly build?

Define bad. If I'm afk and my hero successfully does the task I set out for them to do how is it bad? Because it's not as fast or efficient? Why should that matter? I'm afk. If I want to step away for 5 minutes and leave my heroes to attend to a small mob while I'm gone how is it bad? So they'll take a lil longer to kill while I'm absent, big deal. Are they gonna suddenly fail? I don't expect my heroes to do ALL the work for me, only when I need to step away for a bit. If I wanted to be 100% efficient I wouldn't be afk in the first place. You're over analyzing this whole afk thing. It's quite trivial.

You can scream "bad" all you want. No one cares.

P.S. Don't put words in my mouth. I never specifically said I personally use Discordway to go afk with. I merely stated it's possible to go afk with and there isn't such a huge problem with it as you seem to think.

What you gonna do now? Argue and debate which is the best build to go afk with? LOL

Super Igor · Mar 03, 2009, 11:35 PM // 23:35

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Originally Posted by byteme!

Define bad. If I'm afk and my hero successfully does the task I set out for them to do how is it bad? Because it's not as fast or efficient? Why should that matter? I'm afk. If I want to step away for 5 minutes and leave my heroes to attend to a small mob while I'm gone how is it bad? So they'll take a lil longer to kill while I'm absent, big deal. Are they gonna suddenly fail? I don't expect my heroes to do ALL the work for me, only when I need to step away for a bit. If I wanted to be 100% efficient I wouldn't be afk in the first place. You're over analyzing this whole afk thing. It's quite trivial.

You can scream "bad" all you want. No one cares.

P.S. Don't put words in my mouth. I never specifically said I personally use Discordway to go afk with. I merely stated it's possible to go afk with and there isn't such a huge problem with it as you seem to think.

What you gonna do now? Argue and debate which is the best build to go afk with? LOL

successful isn't enough! You can go through entire pve with a mending wammo and call it successful... but it wont be efficient. Efficient is the word youre looking for and Discord heroes randomly casting discord on random mobs is not efficient you need you to direct them. On other hand sabway is efficient by itself because its mechanic doesnt involve a player.

Also, speak for yourself please you =/= everyone...you dont care, which is pretty bad because you will never learn how to be good at a dead game...

hunter · Mar 04, 2009, 12:13 AM // 00:13

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

a dead game...

GW is far from dead.

Every day i see new people and old people making new (PVE) characters.

On every single night, there are more than 30 people online on my guild roaster.

Every single outpost has people in it, no outpost is ever deserted.

Lastly, reports from Anet show that the numbers for GW are in fact, growing, which is no surprise because more people are getting fed up with "that other game" every day now.

GW is far from dead friend.

byteme! · Mar 04, 2009, 12:18 AM // 00:18

@Igor

You still don't get it. Let me throw out a random example. Try not to take it out of context ok?

1 - I attempt to vanquish an area (random area doesn't matter which)

2 - I plan to afk for a set amount of time (10 minutes)

3 - I flag my heroes to a designated spot to tackle a mob or 2 while I'm away

4 - I know I will eventually have to take over the controls because my heroes can't move around and do everything for me when I'm away.

5 - Since I plan to be afk (~10 minutes) it really doesn't matter which build I am running. (Sab/Discord/Roj)

6 - No matter how efficient or inefficient my heroes are while I'm afk it makes zero difference. They can kill the mobs I assigned them to in 30 seconds or 5 minutes. It makes absolutely zero difference because I am still afk when they are done. (this is the main point I'm trying to get across) If I'm running all Wammos with mending and they fail miserably then it's my fault and I suck horribly but this is nowhere near the case.

7 - We can carry on discussing efficiency when I'm at my desk and NOT afk.

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

Efficient is the word youre looking for...(

The word "efficiency" is not what I'm looking for. Not even remotely close. I'm afk. Gosh I've repeated this so many times. The fact I mentioned Sab/Discord/Roj should be indictive of how efficient I like to be while I'm actively participating. (not afk)

I hope I cleared this up for you, if not then forget it. It's futile. Now back to the topic at hand.

Nightow · Mar 04, 2009, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

successful isn't enough! You can go through entire pve with a mending wammo and call it successful... but it wont be efficient. Efficient is the word youre looking for and Discord heroes randomly casting discord on random mobs is not efficient you need you to direct them. On other hand sabway is efficient by itself because its mechanic doesnt involve a player.

Also, speak for yourself please you =/= everyone...you dont care, which is pretty bad because you will never learn how to be good at a dead game...

Igor, one question for you.

When does the need for efficiency in playing with heroes over rule the need to be able to go afk to tend to some thing IRL?

in b4 GW>Life.

Super Igor · Mar 04, 2009, 02:25 AM // 02:25

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Originally Posted by Nightow

Igor, one question for you.

When does the need for efficiency in playing with heroes over rule the need to be able to go afk to tend to some thing IRL?

in b4 GW>Life.

Well, where did I say that efficiency with heroes over rules going afk to do something IRL?

I'm saying that if you're going afk for any reason and flagging your heroes into the mob often Discord isnt good for you because it requres a player to operate effectively.

Anwyn · Mar 04, 2009, 07:20 AM // 07:20

But it doe just fine on it's own too, yeah, it's not super efficient and uber leet, but it works fine... As when I play my normal warrior bars, the discord works on it's own... i don't have to apply conditions and hexes myself... I on't like changing my play stye or build to suite the heroes, I change the heroes to suite me... So if I wanna play Earth Shaker, I makesure my heroes can apply enough conds and hexes themseves... Yeah, it's not the fastest or leetest way to do it, but it works just fine... hundreds!!!

You don't hve to drive the Ferrari is the BMW wuites you just fine you know!

Super Igor · Mar 04, 2009, 02:05 PM // 14:05

wtf if you leave your heroes apply hexes and conditions it will take the like an hour before the discord something down so it turns into a bad variant of sabway.